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	<title>Comments on: County, Nestle debate eight key themes as public hearings wind down</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Donavan</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2009/05/nestle-debate-eight-key-themes/comment-page-1/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Donavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi J-
Thank you for your time and thoughts. 
In the future, please include your name.  

Thanks for your understanding, 
Bill
The Citizen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi J-<br />
Thank you for your time and thoughts.<br />
In the future, please include your name.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your understanding,<br />
Bill<br />
The Citizen</p>
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		<title>By: Good Neighbor</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2009/05/nestle-debate-eight-key-themes/comment-page-1/#comment-811</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consultant game.
Nestle has obviously borrowed a page from the 1954 classic book on applied statistics  _How to Lie with Statistics_. 
 
The easy way to write a consultant report  for Nestle:  

1) Write the conclusions that will get you paid by Nestle.

2) Select, manipulate, ignore,  falsify, and massage data  to support   claims made in  1)above.  Write a theoretical piece that purports to, but does not cover the real-world situation proposed.

3) Make a nice  Power Point to present 1 &amp; 2.

4) Mumble a lot and agree to &quot;get back&quot;  when the grilling gets tough.  Pretend that the PA system isn&#039;t working properly.  The Nestle THK consultant report said that Chaffee would collect sales taxes  on diesel fuel for the water trucks.  (there is no county sales tax on fuel and no trucking co. would buy fuel here at higher prices) 

In the spirt of full openess that Nestle has proclaimed, please disclose what the Nestle tribe including  Bruce and all the consultants, hired guns, spin  doctors, and spear carriers  have/are being paid.  Is there a bonus if the permit gets approved?

  
I was born at night-but it wasn&#039;t last night. 
J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consultant game.<br />
Nestle has obviously borrowed a page from the 1954 classic book on applied statistics  _How to Lie with Statistics_. </p>
<p>The easy way to write a consultant report  for Nestle:  </p>
<p>1) Write the conclusions that will get you paid by Nestle.</p>
<p>2) Select, manipulate, ignore,  falsify, and massage data  to support   claims made in  1)above.  Write a theoretical piece that purports to, but does not cover the real-world situation proposed.</p>
<p>3) Make a nice  Power Point to present 1 &amp; 2.</p>
<p>4) Mumble a lot and agree to &#8220;get back&#8221;  when the grilling gets tough.  Pretend that the PA system isn&#8217;t working properly.  The Nestle THK consultant report said that Chaffee would collect sales taxes  on diesel fuel for the water trucks.  (there is no county sales tax on fuel and no trucking co. would buy fuel here at higher prices) </p>
<p>In the spirt of full openess that Nestle has proclaimed, please disclose what the Nestle tribe including  Bruce and all the consultants, hired guns, spin  doctors, and spear carriers  have/are being paid.  Is there a bonus if the permit gets approved?</p>
<p>I was born at night-but it wasn&#8217;t last night.<br />
J</p>
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		<title>By: StopNestleWaters.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>StopNestleWaters.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. You can only marvel at how far removed the current discussion is from Nestle&#039;s original proposal, which it&#039;s now clear was riddled with &quot;convenient&quot; misinformation.

The supposed $80,000 annual property tax benefit to Chaffee County has been reduced to less than $17,000. 

And the promises of fuel tax revenue have evaporated also, as have the assurances that enough baseline water studies were done.

All have fallen to independent studies done by consultants, and you have to wonder why that happened.

Most shocking has been the reversal of Nestle&#039;s stance toward the community itself, which was initially limited to donating a few cases of bottled water to schools.

Suddenly, Nestle&#039;s quickdrawing their wallet and providing a minimal endowment (which initially seemed tied to nonprofits &quot;supporting&quot; Nestle&#039;s aims, an idea whose time should never come). 

At this point, you have to wonder if the benefits to the area (which are mostly short-lived) outweigh the consequences of working with a company with such an awful track record - both here and in other rural communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You can only marvel at how far removed the current discussion is from Nestle&#8217;s original proposal, which it&#8217;s now clear was riddled with &#8220;convenient&#8221; misinformation.</p>
<p>The supposed $80,000 annual property tax benefit to Chaffee County has been reduced to less than $17,000. </p>
<p>And the promises of fuel tax revenue have evaporated also, as have the assurances that enough baseline water studies were done.</p>
<p>All have fallen to independent studies done by consultants, and you have to wonder why that happened.</p>
<p>Most shocking has been the reversal of Nestle&#8217;s stance toward the community itself, which was initially limited to donating a few cases of bottled water to schools.</p>
<p>Suddenly, Nestle&#8217;s quickdrawing their wallet and providing a minimal endowment (which initially seemed tied to nonprofits &#8220;supporting&#8221; Nestle&#8217;s aims, an idea whose time should never come). </p>
<p>At this point, you have to wonder if the benefits to the area (which are mostly short-lived) outweigh the consequences of working with a company with such an awful track record &#8211; both here and in other rural communities.</p>
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