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		<title>Comment on OHV meeting Wednesday, February 8th at 1pm by Suzy Patterson</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/ohv-meeting-wednesday-february-8th-at-1pm/comment-page-1/#comment-8660</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzy Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These OHV/dirt-biker yahoos are what we call &quot;Seagull Tourists&quot;: flocks of &#039;em come swooping in, make a lot of noise &amp; commotion, crap all over everything...and leave. DO NOT WANT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These OHV/dirt-biker yahoos are what we call &#8220;Seagull Tourists&#8221;: flocks of &#8216;em come swooping in, make a lot of noise &amp; commotion, crap all over everything&#8230;and leave. DO NOT WANT!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Small town cash mob by Renee Blanchard</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/01/small-town-cash-mob/comment-page-1/#comment-8659</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to start one of these in any small town.   I started Loveland Cash Mob in January and we have over 65 members already.   Our first mobbing is scheduled for this Saturday at a locally owned book store.  This is an idea whose time has come!  Email me or find me on Facebook if you want any help getting started in Salida!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to start one of these in any small town.   I started Loveland Cash Mob in January and we have over 65 members already.   Our first mobbing is scheduled for this Saturday at a locally owned book store.  This is an idea whose time has come!  Email me or find me on Facebook if you want any help getting started in Salida!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by Clarajo Swan</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8657</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarajo Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salida, an ATV destination? I don&#039;t think so. Spoil the quiet surroundings with noise and dust? Nechk.  Please get ahold of yourselves and think this through. Salida is a hiking, biking, boating and art destination. Do we really want to change this? Just for some chump change? The loss would negate the gain in so many ways....not just monetarily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salida, an ATV destination? I don&#8217;t think so. Spoil the quiet surroundings with noise and dust? Nechk.  Please get ahold of yourselves and think this through. Salida is a hiking, biking, boating and art destination. Do we really want to change this? Just for some chump change? The loss would negate the gain in so many ways&#8230;.not just monetarily.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by Jack Chivvis</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8655</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Chivvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATVers are already diregarding signs and using 173 , spiral drive (176)and Hillside rd. (177)  (where there are houses) to get to downtown Salida and down along the river. This area around S mtn. with all of the trails intersecting and heavy use by runners,walkers, cyclists should be completely off limits to unlicensed ohvs. We need to send a loud and clear message to the commisioners that this area should be for non-motorized only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATVers are already diregarding signs and using 173 , spiral drive (176)and Hillside rd. (177)  (where there are houses) to get to downtown Salida and down along the river. This area around S mtn. with all of the trails intersecting and heavy use by runners,walkers, cyclists should be completely off limits to unlicensed ohvs. We need to send a loud and clear message to the commisioners that this area should be for non-motorized only.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Salida Siding Trail Project Public Meeting by Bill Donavan</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/salida-siding-trail-project-public-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-8654</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Donavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice summary Dara! Attention Salida: This is a big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice summary Dara! Attention Salida: This is a big deal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by Jon Fritz</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8653</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATVs, dirt bikes, etc are a blast, but this is not Salida&#039;s base of tourism nor do we need to expand to allow this kind increasing amounts of this kind of recreation.  Quiet use tourism (biking, hiking, river sports, etc) is not compatible with OHV tourism and vice versa.  There is enough dust to breathe when a car rolls by that further dust will only sour a mtn biker and campers experience.  Ever ridden Schofield Pass on your way down the 411 in July?  Constant dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATVs, dirt bikes, etc are a blast, but this is not Salida&#8217;s base of tourism nor do we need to expand to allow this kind increasing amounts of this kind of recreation.  Quiet use tourism (biking, hiking, river sports, etc) is not compatible with OHV tourism and vice versa.  There is enough dust to breathe when a car rolls by that further dust will only sour a mtn biker and campers experience.  Ever ridden Schofield Pass on your way down the 411 in July?  Constant dust.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by Joe Judd</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8651</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Judd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the fact that these vehicles are not licensed should by definition keep them from being used on public roads. For the same reasons they would not be allowed on highways, they should not be allowed on our county roads. If they can meet the standard regulations for safety and noise ordinances and be licensed, then let them on. Of course, then they would not be OHV&#039;s.  

Crying that this is an access issue seems ludicrous. How much access is enough? These people own trailers that they use to bring their OHVs to town. The only difference seems to be where they park the trailer.

I&#039;m certain that the larger benefit from 90% of our tourism base outweighs the 10% (or less) who may be enticed here by easier OHV access. The amount of financial gain seems to be insignificant when compared to the potential destruction of roads and to quality of life. Quality of life is a much larger factor in why most people visit or choose to live in Chaffee County.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the fact that these vehicles are not licensed should by definition keep them from being used on public roads. For the same reasons they would not be allowed on highways, they should not be allowed on our county roads. If they can meet the standard regulations for safety and noise ordinances and be licensed, then let them on. Of course, then they would not be OHV&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>Crying that this is an access issue seems ludicrous. How much access is enough? These people own trailers that they use to bring their OHVs to town. The only difference seems to be where they park the trailer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain that the larger benefit from 90% of our tourism base outweighs the 10% (or less) who may be enticed here by easier OHV access. The amount of financial gain seems to be insignificant when compared to the potential destruction of roads and to quality of life. Quality of life is a much larger factor in why most people visit or choose to live in Chaffee County.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Whitten Ranch: Holistic ranching in the San Luis Valley by Emmanuel Heuer</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2010/07/the-whitten-ranch-holistic-ranching-in-the-san-luis-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-8647</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuel Heuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome blog post.Really looking forward to read more. Will read on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome blog post.Really looking forward to read more. Will read on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by Monarchviews</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8645</link>
		<dc:creator>Monarchviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the destruction of St. Elmo as a quaint quiet little town. It sounds like the Indianapolis 500 up there all summer for the last decade. Im all for the rights of everyone, but irresponsible ATV riders destroy the quality of the outdoor experience when people are drinking and riding, going 50mph and tearing up the terrain. In addition, the trees are dying from erosion and the roads are all beat up. When people used to use Jeeps and Broncos, 4++ people meant 4 tires on the ground, they were slow and fairly quiet. ATV&#039;s mean 4 people 16 tires on the ground. With ATV&#039;s they get their propulsion by roost and speed. They are also extremely noisy. This is dangerous and ridiculous to allow non hwy vehicles on a county road. Please stop this madness before its too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the destruction of St. Elmo as a quaint quiet little town. It sounds like the Indianapolis 500 up there all summer for the last decade. Im all for the rights of everyone, but irresponsible ATV riders destroy the quality of the outdoor experience when people are drinking and riding, going 50mph and tearing up the terrain. In addition, the trees are dying from erosion and the roads are all beat up. When people used to use Jeeps and Broncos, 4++ people meant 4 tires on the ground, they were slow and fairly quiet. ATV&#8217;s mean 4 people 16 tires on the ground. With ATV&#8217;s they get their propulsion by roost and speed. They are also extremely noisy. This is dangerous and ridiculous to allow non hwy vehicles on a county road. Please stop this madness before its too late.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by mark</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8644</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another area to check out is the East Fork of the San Juan River just off Wolf Creek. Try camping there along the prestine river. All you have is non-stop ATVs running up and down the road headed toward four wheel drive trails. Its a catastrophe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another area to check out is the East Fork of the San Juan River just off Wolf Creek. Try camping there along the prestine river. All you have is non-stop ATVs running up and down the road headed toward four wheel drive trails. Its a catastrophe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by aaron w</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8643</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sincerely hope this proposal does not pass.  I spend a lot of time bicycling in the Shirley Townsite region, which seems like an ATV amusement park.  I could go on and on about the craziness that I have personally witnessed in that area.  It&#039;s hard for me to stay away as I love riding up there, but everytime I go I I fully understand that I need to be on high alert to prevent getting run over.  I certainly avoid this region on weekends/holidays.  I hate to say it, but my observations lead me to feel that ATV &quot;recreation&quot; is not compatible with other uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely hope this proposal does not pass.  I spend a lot of time bicycling in the Shirley Townsite region, which seems like an ATV amusement park.  I could go on and on about the craziness that I have personally witnessed in that area.  It&#8217;s hard for me to stay away as I love riding up there, but everytime I go I I fully understand that I need to be on high alert to prevent getting run over.  I certainly avoid this region on weekends/holidays.  I hate to say it, but my observations lead me to feel that ATV &#8220;recreation&#8221; is not compatible with other uses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Salida become a motorized off road vacation destination? by Julie</title>
		<link>http://salidacitizen.com/2012/02/should-salida-become-a-motorized-off-road-vacation-destination/comment-page-1/#comment-8641</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please.... no...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please&#8230;. no&#8230;</p>
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